Rethinking Divorce: A Smarter, More Humane Path Forward

Hosted by Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck | Featuring Justice Rebecca Love Kourlis

A Milestone Episode in Divorce Education

Welcome to a landmark moment in divorce education—a powerful episode of The Smart Divorce that lays the groundwork for what would become the Soft Landing Podcast. In this visionary conversation, hosts Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck are joined by Justice Rebecca Love Kourlis, former Colorado Supreme Court Justice and Executive Director of the Institute for the Advancement of the American Legal System (IAALS). This episode isn't just a discussion—it's a call to action.

Key Themes

• Access to Justice: Redefining what it means for families navigating separation and divorce, especially those without legal representation.
• Avoiding Court: Exploring why the traditional adversarial system often does more harm than good—and what alternatives are emerging.
• The Honoring Families Initiative: IAALS' groundbreaking, out-of-court model offers education, counseling, and mediation, helping families resolve disputes without stepping into a courtroom.
• Empowering Self-Represented Litigants: Tools, strategies, and reforms designed to support those navigating divorce without attorneys.

Why This Episode Matters

This is more than a podcast—it's a blueprint for transforming how we support families during one of life’s most challenging transitions. A precursor to the Soft Landing Podcast, this episode is a foundational resource for those seeking a more informed, compassionate, and constructive way forward.

💬 Thanks for Listening

Ken Maynard

Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting point—not just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. I’m Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 360-3200
• 🌐 Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
• 📧 Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca

Sarah Bates

I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. I’m Sarah Bates—divorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, I’m here to help.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 493-1800
• 🌐 Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
• 📧 Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com

Let’s build your soft landing—together.

Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

It's Never Too Late to Have a Good Childhood: A Milestone in Divorce Healing

Featuring: Deborah Moskovich and Ron Sapanchek, with host Steve Peck

A Landmark Episode in Divorce Education

This special episode of The Smart Divorce is more than just a conversation—it's a breakthrough in how we understand the long-reaching effects of divorce and the enduring possibility of healing. Ron Sapanchek, a celebrated family lawyer and host of his own show, courageously shares a deeply personal, never-before-told story of childhood abandonment, emotional reconciliation, and parental reunification after nearly four decades apart. His journey from a "wounded healer" to a pioneer of humane divorce practices underscores the belief that divorce is not just an ending, but a profound opportunity for transformation.

Legacy and Impact

Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck guide this conversation with warmth and empathy, positioning this episode as:

• A forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcast, setting the emotional and philosophical tone for what’s to come
• An achievement in divorce education—offering fresh, empathetic frameworks like mission statements and storytelling for families in crisis
• A story of generational healing that will inspire both professionals and those navigating separation

Why This Episode Matters

Ron’s story is not just heartwarming—it’s transformative. His experiences challenge the notion of “broken families,” emphasizing communication, compassion, and second chances.

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💬 Thanks for Listening

Ken Maynard

Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting point—not just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. I’m Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 360-3200
• 🌐 Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
• 📧 Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca

Sarah Bates

I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. I’m Sarah Bates—divorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, I’m here to help.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 493-1800
• 🌐 Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
• 📧 Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com

Let’s build your soft landing—together.

Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

It’s All About the Kids: A Smarter, More Humane Approach to Parenting After Divorce

Featuring Hosts Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck with Guest Dr. Philip Stahl

A Groundbreaking Episode in Divorce Education

In this milestone conversation, Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck sit down with Dr. Philip Stahl, a leading psychologist, author, and educator specializing in high-conflict divorce and child custody. As a powerful predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, this episode sets the tone for a new era—one grounded in empathy, accountability, and child-centered solutions.

Why This Episode Matters

This is not just another podcast—it's an achievement episode in the realm of divorce education, reframing co-parenting and post-separation life as opportunities for growth and resilience.

• Dr. Stahl shares deeply human stories and expert guidance on creating customized parenting plans that prioritize children’s well-being over rigid formulas.
• The discussion explores co-parenting vs. parallel parenting, highlighting real-world tools for managing conflict and fostering trust.
• Listeners are reminded that “parenting isn’t a percentage”—it's about presence, quality, and modeling responsibility.

A Message of Hope

Whether you're navigating a high-conflict separation or quietly adjusting to single parenting, this episode offers a beacon of compassion and clarity. As Dr. Stahl so poignantly puts it, “It's not about the parents. It’s about the kids.”

💬 Thanks for Listening

Ken Maynard

Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting point—not just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. I’m Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 360-3200
• 🌐 Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
• 📧 Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca

Sarah Bates

I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. I’m Sarah Bates—divorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, I’m here to help.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 493-1800
• 🌐 Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
• 📧 Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com

Let’s build your soft landing—together.

Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Introducing the Smart Divorce: A Pioneering Step Toward Empowered, Compassionate Separation

Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Dr. Robert Simon

A Milestone in Divorce Education and Support

In this achievement episode of The Smart Divorce—a groundbreaking predecessor to the acclaimed Soft Landing Podcast—we invite listeners to take the first courageous step toward navigating divorce with clarity, integrity, and heart. This inaugural conversation is more than just a podcast—it's a call to revolutionize how we experience and approach the end of a marriage. Through candid reflections and expert insights, host Deborah Moskovich shares her personal journey from guilt-ridden separation to empowered educator. Alongside co-host Steve Peck and clinical psychologist Dr. Robert Simon, this episode sheds light on what really happens in the emotionally charged early stages of divorce.

• Learn why slowing down the process can lead to better outcomes for families.
• Discover how therapy and communication shape a smarter, more humane divorce.
• Understand why “being smart” about divorce means preparing emotionally as well as legally.

Why This Episode Matters

This is where it all began. With empathy, truth, and expert insight, this episode paved the way for a more thoughtful and emotionally intelligent conversation around separation. Whether you're contemplating divorce or supporting someone through it, this podcast is your first step toward a softer landing.

💬 Thanks for Listening

Ken Maynard

Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting point—not just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. I’m Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 360-3200
• 🌐 Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
• 📧 Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca

Sarah Bates

I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. I’m Sarah Bates—divorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, I’m here to help.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 493-1800
• 🌐 Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
• 📧 Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com

Let’s build your soft landing—together.

Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

How Your Brain Can Make Divorce Smarter

With Hosts Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck, Featuring Guest Nathalie Boutet

A Milestone Episode in Divorce Education

This enlightening episode of The Smart Divorce on Divorce Source Radio represents a turning point in how we understand and experience separation. It’s more than just a conversation—it’s an achievement in compassionate, science-informed divorce education, and a clear forerunner to the transformative vision of the Soft Landing Podcast.

Unlocking the Power of Brain Science in Divorce

Join host Deborah Moskovich and legal innovator Nathalie Boutet, one of Canada’s top family lawyers and founder of the Neuro Family Law Institute, as they reveal how our brain’s emotional wiring influences the way we separate—and how understanding it can lead to more humane, less damaging divorces.

• Explore neuroplasticity and how your brain can actually rewire itself through divorce.
• Learn how legal professionals can avoid emotional “triggers” that escalate conflict.
• Understand why interest-based negotiation is the most brain-friendly, future-focused approach to divorce.

Why This Matters

This episode is a call to action—for clients and legal professionals alike—to rethink separation not as a war, but as a transition where insight, empathy, and evidence-based strategies can foster healing. With clarity and depth, Nathalie shows us how the law and neuroscience can work together for better outcomes for families in crisis.

💬 Thanks for Listening

Ken Maynard

Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting point—not just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. I’m Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 360-3200
• 🌐 Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
• 📧 Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca

Sarah Bates

I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. I’m Sarah Bates—divorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, I’m here to help.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 493-1800
• 🌐 Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
• 📧 Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com

Let’s build your soft landing—together.

Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Finding Your Authentic Self: A Transformative Approach to Divorce and Healing

Featuring: Deborah Moskovitch, Steve Peck, and Special Guest Hannah McDonough

A Milestone Episode in Divorce Education

Welcome to a breakthrough conversation on The Smart Divorce—an episode that redefines how we think about separation, healing, and personal transformation. Hosted by Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck, this compelling dialogue with acclaimed psychotherapist Hannah McDonough is more than a conversation—it's an achievement episode in divorce education and emotional wellness.

The Predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast

This episode stands as a powerful predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, laying the emotional and intellectual groundwork for a more humane, enlightened approach to divorce and relationships.

What Makes This Episode Unmissable:

• Hannah McDonough offers a masterclass in transformative therapy—an empathetic, neuroscience-backed method for rewiring trauma into self-compassion.
• Real insights into why we repeat relational patterns and how to break free.
• A heart-centered reminder that happiness is our birthright, not a distant goal.
• How therapy creates secure emotional attachments even in adulthood.
• How becoming your authentic self opens the door to love, joy, and lasting intimacy.

This isn’t just a podcast—it’s a guidepost for anyone navigating the emotional terrain of divorce. Tune in for inspiration, practical wisdom, and a renewed sense of hope.

💬 Thanks for Listening

Ken Maynard

Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting point—not just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. I’m Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 360-3200
• 🌐 Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
• 📧 Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca

Sarah Bates

I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. I’m Sarah Bates—divorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, I’m here to help.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 493-1800
• 🌐 Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
• 📧 Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com

Let’s build your soft landing—together.

Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Finding Happiness During Divorce: A Smarter, More Humane Approach

Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Susan Pease Gadoua

A Pioneering Episode in Divorce Education

This thought-provoking episode of The Smart Divorce marks a significant milestone—a true achievement episode in the evolving world of divorce education. As a powerful precursor to the Soft Landing Podcast, it sets the tone for a more compassionate, introspective, and growth-oriented approach to separation.

Why This Episode Matters

In a culture obsessed with quick fixes and romantic ideals, Deborah and Steve join forces with therapist and author Susan Pease Gadoua to explore the deep, often overlooked journey of self-discovery during and after divorce. They unpack why people repeat relationship patterns, how happiness is truly cultivated, and what it means to love yourself before loving others.

• Redefining happiness as an "inside job"
• Breaking free from toxic relationship cycles
• Understanding divorce as an opportunity for growth—not failure
• The importance of becoming an “equilateral triangle”—whole and balanced on your own

Episode Impact

More than a podcast—this is an invitation to transform your post-divorce life with insight, purpose, and emotional clarity. For anyone navigating heartbreak or new beginnings, this conversation is a light at the end of the tunnel.

💬 Thanks for Listening

Ken Maynard

Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting point—not just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. I’m Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 360-3200
• 🌐 Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
• 📧 Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca

Sarah Bates

I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. I’m Sarah Bates—divorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, I’m here to help.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 493-1800
• 🌐 Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
• 📧 Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com

Let’s build your soft landing—together.

Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

The Smart Divorce Presents: Finding the Problem-Solving Lawyer

Hosted by Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Mark Baer

A Milestone Conversation in Divorce Education

In this landmark episode—an “achievement episode” in the evolving landscape of divorce education—Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck guide us into a transformative conversation with Mark Baer, a seasoned family lawyer, mediator, and thought leader. This episode serves as a precursor to the Soft Landing Podcast, introducing key principles that are shaping a more humane, forward-thinking approach to separation.

Reframing Divorce with Compassion and Clarity

What if your divorce could be guided by someone trained not to fight—but to solve problems and preserve dignity? That’s the compelling perspective offered by Mark Baer, who challenges traditional litigation-based models and reveals how misaligned legal representation can escalate conflict unnecessarily.

• Learn why “how you start the end” of your marriage determines the long-term functionality of your family.
• Discover how problem-solving lawyers think differently—and what to ask during a consultation to identify one.
• Uncover the emotional and financial benefits of non-adversarial processes like mediation and collaborative law.

This conversation marks a shift—a smarter, more intentional way to navigate divorce, prioritizing insight, integrity, and enduring family wellbeing.

💬 Thanks for Listening

Ken Maynard

Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting point—not just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. I’m Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 360-3200
• 🌐 Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
• 📧 Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca

Sarah Bates

I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. I’m Sarah Bates—divorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, I’m here to help.

• 📞 Phone: (647) 493-1800
• 🌐 Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
• 📧 Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com

Let’s build your soft landing—together.

Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca