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šØš¦ Soft Landing Divorce Podcast is about helping separating couplesāwhether just starting the journey or already stuck in the Divorce Industrial Complexāfind a clearer, kinder path forward.
Hosted by Sarah Bates, Certified Divorce Specialist and creator of Naked Divorce Filer by DTSW, and Ken Maynard, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and Accredited Family Mediator, the show blends Sarahās practical legal knowāhow with Kenās Soft Landing Divorce Settlement Method. Together, they cut through confusion, demystify the process, and show couples how to avoid costly legal battles.
Each episode features roundtable discussions that share proven settlement strategies, tools, and support resources. Listeners will learn how to simplify paperwork, reduce conflict, and create sustainable agreements with dignity and confidence.
With new episodes every Tuesday and occasional bonus drops, the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast offers straight, plainātalk guidance that helps you move forward without the chaos. Follow now so you never miss an episode
Episodes

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
āWeāre Not Divorcing Youā: The Essential Talk Every Parent Must Have
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
What Should We Tell the Children?
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Dr. Joan Kelly
A Milestone in Divorce Education
This powerful episode of The Smart Divorce marks a pivotal step toward more compassionate, informed, and child-focused separation. Featuring internationally renowned psychologist and divorce expert Dr. Joan Kelly, this conversation delivers a masterclass in one of the most emotionally charged moments of divorce: telling your children.
The Episode That Paved the Way for the Soft Landing Podcast
Before the Soft Landing Podcast redefined humane separation, this episode set the standard. It's an achievement episodeāa foundational conversation that reshaped how families approach divorce, emphasizing transparency, empathy, and preparation.
Key Takeaways
- Why only 5% of parents inform their children with intentionāand how to change that.
- How to script age-appropriate conversations that foster stability and security.
- The three critical messages every child must hear: āItās not your fault, we love you, and weāre still your parents.ā
- What to say, what to avoid, and how to prepare when co-parenting under one roof.
Inspiration for a Smarter Tomorrow
Deborah and Steveās vulnerability, coupled with Dr. Kellyās decades of research, create a deeply moving and practical guide for parents facing one of lifeās most difficult transitions. If youāre navigating divorce, this is the conversation that will change how you do itāand how your children remember it.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tell the Children
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tell the Children
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Putting Kids First: A Child-Centered Revolution in Divorce
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Protecting Your Children Through Divorce: A Smarter, More Compassionate Approach
With Hosts Deborah Moskovich & Steve Peck, Featuring Guest Rosalind Sedacca
Welcome to a Milestone in Divorce Education
This powerful episode of The Smart Divorce marks an achievement moment in the evolving landscape of family separation. With empathy, insight, and practical guidance, this conversation serves as a cornerstone in reshaping how parents navigate divorce with their children at heartālaying the emotional and educational groundwork for what would later become the Soft Landing Podcast.
A Groundbreaking Conversation
Our featured guest, Rosalind Sedaccaārecognized globally as the voice of Child-Centered Divorceāshares her visionary work, including the creation of International Child-Centered Divorce Month. Together with host Deborah Moskovich, they explore:
- How to shield children from emotional harm during and after divorce
- Why January is known as "Divorce Month" and what that means for families
- Effective, child-focused communication strategies and practical tools like Sedaccaās customizable storybook
- The dangers of āparentifyingā children and how to preserve their childhood
A Legacy of Insight and Change
This is more than a podcastāit's a movement toward smarter, more humane separations. As a predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, it captures the heart of what matters most: protecting the next generation through informed, intentional choices.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
It's Never Too Late to Have a Good Childhood
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
It's Never Too Late to Have a Good Childhood: A Milestone in Divorce Healing
Featuring: Deborah Moskovich and Ron Sapanchek, with host Steve Peck
A Landmark Episode in Divorce Education
This special episode of The Smart Divorce is more than just a conversationāit's a breakthrough in how we understand the long-reaching effects of divorce and the enduring possibility of healing. Ron Sapanchek, a celebrated family lawyer and host of his own show, courageously shares a deeply personal, never-before-told story of childhood abandonment, emotional reconciliation, and parental reunification after nearly four decades apart. His journey from a "wounded healer" to a pioneer of humane divorce practices underscores the belief that divorce is not just an ending, but a profound opportunity for transformation.
Legacy and Impact
Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck guide this conversation with warmth and empathy, positioning this episode as:
- A forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcast, setting the emotional and philosophical tone for whatās to come
- An achievement in divorce educationāoffering fresh, empathetic frameworks like mission statements and storytelling for families in crisis
- A story of generational healing that will inspire both professionals and those navigating separation
Why This Episode Matters
Ronās story is not just heartwarmingāitās transformative. His experiences challenge the notion of ābroken families,ā emphasizing communication, compassion, and second chances.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Itās All About the Kids: A Smarter, More Humane Approach to Parenting After Divorce
Featuring Hosts Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck with Guest Dr. Philip Stahl
A Groundbreaking Episode in Divorce Education
In this milestone conversation, Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck sit down with Dr. Philip Stahl, a leading psychologist, author, and educator specializing in high-conflict divorce and child custody. As a powerful predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, this episode sets the tone for a new eraāone grounded in empathy, accountability, and child-centered solutions.
Why This Episode Matters
This is not just another podcastāit's an achievement episode in the realm of divorce education, reframing co-parenting and post-separation life as opportunities for growth and resilience.
- Dr. Stahl shares deeply human stories and expert guidance on creating customized parenting plans that prioritize childrenās well-being over rigid formulas.
- The discussion explores co-parenting vs. parallel parenting, highlighting real-world tools for managing conflict and fostering trust.
- Listeners are reminded that āparenting isnāt a percentageāāit's about presence, quality, and modeling responsibility.
A Message of Hope
Whether you're navigating a high-conflict separation or quietly adjusting to single parenting, this episode offers a beacon of compassion and clarity. As Dr. Stahl so poignantly puts it, āIt's not about the parents. Itās about the kids.ā
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca