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šØš¦ Soft Landing Divorce Podcast is about helping separating couplesāwhether just starting the journey or already stuck in the Divorce Industrial Complexāfind a clearer, kinder path forward.
Hosted by Sarah Bates, Certified Divorce Specialist and creator of Naked Divorce Filer by DTSW, and Ken Maynard, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and Accredited Family Mediator, the show blends Sarahās practical legal knowāhow with Kenās Soft Landing Divorce Settlement Method. Together, they cut through confusion, demystify the process, and show couples how to avoid costly legal battles.
Each episode features roundtable discussions that share proven settlement strategies, tools, and support resources. Listeners will learn how to simplify paperwork, reduce conflict, and create sustainable agreements with dignity and confidence.
With new episodes every Tuesday and occasional bonus drops, the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast offers straight, plainātalk guidance that helps you move forward without the chaos. Follow now so you never miss an episode
Episodes

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
āWeāre Not Divorcing Youā: The Essential Talk Every Parent Must Have
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
What Should We Tell the Children?
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Dr. Joan Kelly
A Milestone in Divorce Education
This powerful episode of The Smart Divorce marks a pivotal step toward more compassionate, informed, and child-focused separation. Featuring internationally renowned psychologist and divorce expert Dr. Joan Kelly, this conversation delivers a masterclass in one of the most emotionally charged moments of divorce: telling your children.
The Episode That Paved the Way for the Soft Landing Podcast
Before the Soft Landing Podcast redefined humane separation, this episode set the standard. It's an achievement episodeāa foundational conversation that reshaped how families approach divorce, emphasizing transparency, empathy, and preparation.
Key Takeaways
- Why only 5% of parents inform their children with intentionāand how to change that.
- How to script age-appropriate conversations that foster stability and security.
- The three critical messages every child must hear: āItās not your fault, we love you, and weāre still your parents.ā
- What to say, what to avoid, and how to prepare when co-parenting under one roof.
Inspiration for a Smarter Tomorrow
Deborah and Steveās vulnerability, coupled with Dr. Kellyās decades of research, create a deeply moving and practical guide for parents facing one of lifeās most difficult transitions. If youāre navigating divorce, this is the conversation that will change how you do itāand how your children remember it.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tell the Children
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tell the Children
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Beyond Litigation: Rewriting the Divorce Story
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Redefining Divorce: A Kinder Path Forward
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich with guest John Schuman
From Conflict to Compassion: The Power of Alternative Dispute Resolution
In this milestone episode of The Smart Divorce, recorded live at the Family Support Expo in Toronto, Deborah Moskovich welcomes seasoned family lawyer John Schuman for an eye-opening conversation on how separating couples can break away from adversarial courtroom battles. Marking an achievement in divorce education, this discussion challenges outdated assumptionsāproving that divorce doesnāt have to mean destruction. It stands as a proud predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, setting the stage for more humane and thoughtful separations. What makes this episode uniquely impactful?
- An empathetic breakdown of litigation vs. ADRāwhy court may be the worst option for your family.
- Real-world examples of how mediation, arbitration, and collaborative law offer agency, privacy, and peace.
- Key insights into protecting childrenās well-being while preserving dignity on both sides.
This isnāt just an episodeāitās a turning point.
Whether you're navigating a separation or guiding others through one, this conversation will leave you with tools, hope, and the affirmation that a smarter, softer landing is possible.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Growing Up Between Two Homes: The Emotional Reality of Shared Custody
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
The Shared Custody Experience: A New Chapter in Divorce Education
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Researcher Denise Whitehead
An Achievement Episode and Foundational Moment for the Soft Landing Podcast
In this milestone episode of The Smart Divorce, we take a profound step forward in reshaping how we understand the real-world impact of divorce on childrenāespecially those who live within shared custody arrangements. This episode stands as an early forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcast, marking an educational pivot toward empathy, research-driven insight, and true child-centered divorce planning.
Unique Storyline: Childrenās Voices, Finally Heard
Our featured guest, Denise Whiteheadālawyer, social scientist, and PhD in Family Relationsāshares groundbreaking research on how young adults reflect on their experiences growing up in shared custody homes. The episode brings to life not only academic findings but also deeply personal, often tearful stories from the children themselves.
- Insights from adult children who navigated complex custody dynamics and still emerged with strength, clarity, and purpose.
- What children really feel about the fairness, transitions, and emotional labor involved in shared custody.
- How parenting plans must evolve as children growāemotionally, socially, and developmentally.
Why This Episode Matters
Itās a compelling call to listen differentlyānot just to each other as co-parents, but to our children, who are often silently adjusting their lives to protect us. This episode doesn't just offer informationāit delivers transformation.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Letting Go to Move Forward: The Power of Forgiveness After Divorce
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Forgiveness as a Path to Healing: A Smarter Way Forward After Divorce
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Dr. Mark Rye
Milestone Episode in Divorce EducationāA Predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast
This powerful episode of The Smart Divorce marks a transformative shift in how we understand and experience separation. In what can only be called a landmark conversation, host Deborah Moskovich welcomes Dr. Mark Rye, Associate Professor of Psychology at Skidmore College, whose pioneering research on forgiveness illuminates an often-overlooked but crucial part of healing.
A Unique Angle: Forgiveness & the Parent-Child Dynamic
Rather than framing forgiveness as forgetting or condoning harm, this episode reframes it as an act of personal liberationāespecially vital for parents navigating life after divorce. Dr. Rye shares compelling insights into how forgiving an ex-spouse can:
- Reduce depression and enhance emotional well-being
- Improve parenting and reduce child exposure to conflict
- Change toxic dynamics by ātaking back the remote controlā on emotional triggers
A Smarter, More Humane Approach
This episode is not just another conversationāit's a foundational step toward a healthier, more compassionate post-divorce journey. It embodies the guiding philosophy that would later shape the Soft Landing Podcast, making it a must-listen for anyone ready to move forward with clarity, grace, and courage.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Ten Quiet Clues: Is Your Spouse Planning to Leave?
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Recognizing the Signs: A Smarter, More Empathetic Approach to Divorce
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck
Featuring Insights from the Pioneering Voice Behind The Smart Divorce
In this powerful and thought-provoking achievement episode of The Smart Divorce on Divorce Source Radio, host Deborah Moskovich joins Steve Peck to explore the criticalābut often overlookedāearly warning signs that a spouse may be planning to divorce. Framed with compassion and wisdom, this conversation is a landmark in divorce education, laying the groundwork for what would later become the Soft Landing Podcast.
Why This Episode Matters
- It shines a light on the emotional and financial cues that often precede a separationālike rejigging gifts from in-laws, juggling assets, and withdrawals from joint credit lines.
- It validates the confusion, fear, and isolation people feel when blindsided by divorce.
- It emphasizes introspection, emotional readiness, and professional guidance over reactionary decisions.
What You'll Take Away
- Signs that your relationship may be in quiet crisis.
- The critical role of financial awareness and self-advocacy.
- Why friends may not be the best advisorsāand how a divorce consultant can provide clarity and calm.
This episode is not just a guideāitās a compassionate companion for anyone navigating uncertainty in their marriage. It's also a pivotal moment in reshaping how we talk about divorce: with honesty, dignity, and hope.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
The Beginning of Something Better: Judge Lynn and the Power of Reframing Divorce
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Reimagining Divorce with Intelligence, Empathy, and Empowerment
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Special Guest Judge Lynn Toler
A Milestone Episode in Divorce Education
Welcome to a defining moment in divorce discourse. In this groundbreaking episode of The Smart Divorce on Divorce Source Radio, weāre honored to host Judge Lynn Toler, former municipal court judge and longtime host of the iconic television series Divorce Court. Known for her deep insights into relationship dynamics and judicial fairness, Judge Lynn takes us beyond the screen to reveal what truly matters in divorceāand how to move through it with clarity, dignity, and emotional intelligence.
What Makes This Episode a Landmark:
- It's a predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, setting the tone for future compassionate conversations about separation.
- Judge Lynn dismantles the illusions of courtroom drama, emphasizing mediation, communication, and emotional maturity as the true pathways to resolution.
- She shares powerful lessons on domestic violence awareness, gender dynamics, and the emotional toll of divorceāoffering hope and tools to heal.
- Her message: Divorce isnāt the endāit can be a transformational beginning.
Why Youāll Want to Listen:
This episode is more than an interview; itās a guide to reclaiming power, fostering empathy, and making smarter choices in one of lifeās toughest transitions. Whether youāre divorced, divorcing, or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers a new way forward.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
The Smart Divorce Presents: Breaking the Silence on Domestic Abuse
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Surviving Domestic Violence: A New Chapter of Hope and Safety
With Hosts Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck, Featuring Guests Rachel and Tim Wenzel
Breaking Free, Finding Strength
In this powerful achievement episode of The Smart Divorceāa trailblazer and forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcastāwe spotlight a story that transcends survival and celebrates the courage to start anew. Join hosts Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck as they welcome Rachel, a brave mother and educator, who recounts her harrowing yet inspiring journey out of emotional, psychological, and physical abuse. Rachel's escape wasn't spontaneousāit was a meticulously planned operation, guided by protective security expert Tim Wenzel. With empathy, resilience, and precision, this episode unpacks the logistics of āleaving without a trace,ā the emotional toll of domestic abuse, and the transformative power of support and planning.
This Episode Is a Milestone Because:
- It highlights the often-invisible trauma of emotional and verbal abuse.
- It illustrates a rare collaboration between a survivor and a security consultant.
- It boldly challenges societal and religious stigmas surrounding divorce and abuse.
- It empowers listeners with tangible steps toward safety, healing, and self-worth.
Key Takeaway
Abuse thrives in silence. Healing begins with hopeāand a plan. This episode is a testament that with the right support, it is possible to break generational cycles of violence and create a future defined by love, freedom, and dignity.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca