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šØš¦ Soft Landing Divorce Podcast is about helping separating couplesāwhether just starting the journey or already stuck in the Divorce Industrial Complexāfind a clearer, kinder path forward.
Hosted by Sarah Bates, Certified Divorce Specialist and creator of Naked Divorce Filer by DTSW, and Ken Maynard, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and Accredited Family Mediator, the show blends Sarahās practical legal knowāhow with Kenās Soft Landing Divorce Settlement Method. Together, they cut through confusion, demystify the process, and show couples how to avoid costly legal battles.
Each episode features roundtable discussions that share proven settlement strategies, tools, and support resources. Listeners will learn how to simplify paperwork, reduce conflict, and create sustainable agreements with dignity and confidence.
With new episodes every Tuesday and occasional bonus drops, the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast offers straight, plainātalk guidance that helps you move forward without the chaos. Follow now so you never miss an episode
Episodes

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Rewiring Divorce: Brain Science for a Smarter Separation
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
How Your Brain Can Make Divorce Smarter
With Hosts Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck, Featuring Guest Nathalie Boutet
A Milestone Episode in Divorce Education
This enlightening episode of The Smart Divorce on Divorce Source Radio represents a turning point in how we understand and experience separation. Itās more than just a conversationāitās an achievement in compassionate, science-informed divorce education, and a clear forerunner to the transformative vision of the Soft Landing Podcast.
Unlocking the Power of Brain Science in Divorce
Join host Deborah Moskovich and legal innovator Nathalie Boutet, one of Canadaās top family lawyers and founder of the Neuro Family Law Institute, as they reveal how our brainās emotional wiring influences the way we separateāand how understanding it can lead to more humane, less damaging divorces.
- Explore neuroplasticity and how your brain can actually rewire itself through divorce.
- Learn how legal professionals can avoid emotional ātriggersā that escalate conflict.
- Understand why interest-based negotiation is the most brain-friendly, future-focused approach to divorce.
Why This Matters
This episode is a call to actionāfor clients and legal professionals alikeāto rethink separation not as a war, but as a transition where insight, empathy, and evidence-based strategies can foster healing. With clarity and depth, Nathalie shows us how the law and neuroscience can work together for better outcomes for families in crisis.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Finding Your Authentic Self: A Smarter, Kinder Way Through Divorce
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Finding Your Authentic Self: A Transformative Approach to Divorce and Healing
Featuring: Deborah Moskovitch, Steve Peck, and Special Guest Hannah McDonough
A Milestone Episode in Divorce Education
Welcome to a breakthrough conversation on The Smart Divorceāan episode that redefines how we think about separation, healing, and personal transformation. Hosted by Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck, this compelling dialogue with acclaimed psychotherapist Hannah McDonough is more than a conversationāit's an achievement episode in divorce education and emotional wellness.
The Predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast
This episode stands as a powerful predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, laying the emotional and intellectual groundwork for a more humane, enlightened approach to divorce and relationships.
What Makes This Episode Unmissable:
- Hannah McDonough offers a masterclass in transformative therapyāan empathetic, neuroscience-backed method for rewiring trauma into self-compassion.
- Real insights into why we repeat relational patterns and how to break free.
- A heart-centered reminder that happiness is our birthright, not a distant goal.
- How therapy creates secure emotional attachments even in adulthood.
- How becoming your authentic self opens the door to love, joy, and lasting intimacy.
This isnāt just a podcastāitās a guidepost for anyone navigating the emotional terrain of divorce. Tune in for inspiration, practical wisdom, and a renewed sense of hope.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Finding Happiness After Divorce: The Journey Starts Within
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Finding Happiness During Divorce: A Smarter, More Humane Approach
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Susan Pease Gadoua
A Pioneering Episode in Divorce Education
This thought-provoking episode of The Smart Divorce marks a significant milestoneāa true achievement episode in the evolving world of divorce education. As a powerful precursor to the Soft Landing Podcast, it sets the tone for a more compassionate, introspective, and growth-oriented approach to separation.
Why This Episode Matters
In a culture obsessed with quick fixes and romantic ideals, Deborah and Steve join forces with therapist and author Susan Pease Gadoua to explore the deep, often overlooked journey of self-discovery during and after divorce. They unpack why people repeat relationship patterns, how happiness is truly cultivated, and what it means to love yourself before loving others.
- Redefining happiness as an "inside job"
- Breaking free from toxic relationship cycles
- Understanding divorce as an opportunity for growthānot failure
- The importance of becoming an āequilateral triangleāāwhole and balanced on your own
Episode Impact
More than a podcastāthis is an invitation to transform your post-divorce life with insight, purpose, and emotional clarity. For anyone navigating heartbreak or new beginnings, this conversation is a light at the end of the tunnel.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
The Problem-Solving Lawyer: A Kinder Path Through Divorce
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
The Smart Divorce Presents: Finding the Problem-Solving Lawyer
Hosted by Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Mark Baer
A Milestone Conversation in Divorce Education
In this landmark episodeāan āachievement episodeā in the evolving landscape of divorce educationāDeborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck guide us into a transformative conversation with Mark Baer, a seasoned family lawyer, mediator, and thought leader. This episode serves as a precursor to the Soft Landing Podcast, introducing key principles that are shaping a more humane, forward-thinking approach to separation.
Reframing Divorce with Compassion and Clarity
What if your divorce could be guided by someone trained not to fightābut to solve problems and preserve dignity? Thatās the compelling perspective offered by Mark Baer, who challenges traditional litigation-based models and reveals how misaligned legal representation can escalate conflict unnecessarily.
- Learn why āhow you start the endā of your marriage determines the long-term functionality of your family.
- Discover how problem-solving lawyers think differentlyāand what to ask during a consultation to identify one.
- Uncover the emotional and financial benefits of non-adversarial processes like mediation and collaborative law.
This conversation marks a shiftāa smarter, more intentional way to navigate divorce, prioritizing insight, integrity, and enduring family wellbeing.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
From Breakdown to Breakthrough: The Relationship Reset We All Need
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Family is the Foundation of Society: A Smarter Start to Relationships and Divorce
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Dave Quist of the Institute of Marriage and Family Canada
A Milestone Conversation in Divorce Education
This episode of The Smart Divorce is more than a discussionāit's a landmark in reshaping how we think about relationships, marriage, and separation. In this compelling dialogue with Dave Quist, Executive Director of the Institute of Marriage and Family Canada (IMFC), host Deborah Moskovich courageously explores how proactive education, open communication, and realistic expectations can fortify modern relationships before and after divorce.
The Episode that Sparked a Movement
Regarded as a forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcast, this episode marks an āachievement momentā in divorce awareness. With heartfelt insight and deep professional grounding, it invites us to build relationships that are smarter, not just easierālaying groundwork for the future of family resilience.
Key Storylines Youāll Hear
- Why family dinners are more powerful than you think
- The truth about cohabitation vs. marriage outcomes
- How pre-marriage education could prevent unnecessary divorce
- Ways financial transparency can save blended families
- The real impact of divorce on childrenās long-term well-being
Tune in for a warm, inspiring, and deeply educational conversation that doesn't shy away from tough truthsāand dares to envision a better path forward.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
The Hidden War at Home: Domestic Abuse Uncovered
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Understanding Domestic Violence: A Call to Awareness and Action
With Hosts Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck Featuring Guest Penny Krawitz
A Landmark Episode in Divorce Education
In this powerful and essential episode of The Smart Divorce on Divorce Source Radio, hosts Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck welcome Penny Krawitz, Executive Director of ACT to End Violence Against Women, to shine a critical light on the realities of domestic violence. With deep empathy and professional insight, the conversation unpacks the hidden patterns, myths, and societal implications of abuse within intimate relationships.
This Episode Marks a Turning Point
Positioned as a foundational milestone in the evolution of divorce education, this episode courageously examines:
- The full spectrum of abuseāemotional, financial, psychological, and physical
- Why domestic violence transcends class, culture, and religion
- The insidious nature of control and the erosion of self-esteem
- What support systems and steps are available for survivors
Setting the Stage for the Soft Landing Podcast
More than a discussion, this episode is a forerunner to a broader movementāthe Soft Landing Podcast. It signals a smarter, more humane approach to separation, emphasizing empowerment, education, and support.
Listen and Share
Whether you're a survivor, supporter, or professional in the divorce space, this episode offers a beacon of hope, validation, and action.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Beyond the Courtroom: Building Fairer Futures Through Facilitative Divorce
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Rethinking Mediation: A Fresh Take on Creative Divorce Solutions
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich with guest Mark Baer, Esq.
An Achievement Episode in Divorce Education
In this pioneering episode of The Smart Divorce, host Deborah Moskovich reconnects with forward-thinking attorney and mediator Mark Baer to explore one of the most misunderstood aspects of separation: mediation models. This episode marks a milestone in divorce education, offering a compelling, nuanced, and truly transformative perspective on how mediation can empower rather than divide. As a predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, this conversation lays the groundwork for a more humane, equitable, and sustainable approach to family transition.
Unique Episode Angle
Unlike traditional discussions, this episode delves into the differences between evaluative, directive, and facilitative mediation, shedding light on how each model shapes outcomes and emotional impacts. With clarity and passion, Mark exposes how āone-size-fits-allā child support models often overlook real family needsāand offers powerful alternatives grounded in empathy, long-term thinking, and equity.
- Discover why the choice of mediator profoundly influences outcomes.
- Learn how to use child support creatively to benefit children's futures, like funding education.
- Uncover the emotional undercurrents behind financial decisions in divorceāand how to navigate them.
Why You Should Listen
This episode is a wake-up call for divorcing couples, lawyers, and mediators alikeāoffering not just education, but inspiration for doing divorce differently. It's not just a podcast; it's a catalyst for change.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Money, Kids, and Divorce: The Hidden Conversations That Matter
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Rewriting the Rules of Child Support: The Hidden Truths No One Talks About
Featuring Hosts Deborah Moskovitch & Steve Peck with Guest Mike Mira
A Milestone Episode in Divorce Education
From the Family Support Expo in Toronto, this Smart Divorce episode marks a pivotal moment in how we understand and navigate the complexities of post-divorce parenting. With empathy and clarity, Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck dive deep with guest Mike Mira, a legal veteran and founder of Support Information Exchange, to unravel the unspoken challenges of child support.
The Storyline That Sets This Episode Apart
While most discussions about child support stay surface-level, this episode explores the emotional, legal, and financial toll it takes on both payers and recipientsāespecially when systems designed to help fall short.
- Why constant re-engagement over finances post-divorce is a recipe for conflict
- The hidden psychological costs of writing that monthly check
- How technology is reshaping transparency and trust between co-parents
A Forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcast
This episode stands as a foundational conversationānot only in the Smart Divorce series but also as a conceptual predecessor to what would become the Soft Landing Podcast. Itās more than a discussionāitās a step toward a smarter, more humane approach to separation and co-parenting.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca