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šØš¦ Soft Landing Divorce Podcast is about helping separating couplesāwhether just starting the journey or already stuck in the Divorce Industrial Complexāfind a clearer, kinder path forward.
Hosted by Sarah Bates, Certified Divorce Specialist and creator of Naked Divorce Filer by DTSW, and Ken Maynard, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and Accredited Family Mediator, the show blends Sarahās practical legal knowāhow with Kenās Soft Landing Divorce Settlement Method. Together, they cut through confusion, demystify the process, and show couples how to avoid costly legal battles.
Each episode features roundtable discussions that share proven settlement strategies, tools, and support resources. Listeners will learn how to simplify paperwork, reduce conflict, and create sustainable agreements with dignity and confidence.
With new episodes every Tuesday and occasional bonus drops, the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast offers straight, plainātalk guidance that helps you move forward without the chaos. Follow now so you never miss an episode
Episodes

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Love, Loss, and Liberation: Healing After a Partner Comes Out
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Out of the Closet, Into the Light: Healing After a Spouse Comes Out
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck
Featuring Special Guest: Dr. Amity Buxton
In this milestone episode of The Smart Divorceāa forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcastāwe courageously step into one of the most unspoken, yet profoundly human chapters in the world of divorce: when a spouse comes out as LGBTQ+ within a heterosexual marriage. Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck are joined by Dr. Amity Buxton, founder of the Straight Spouse Network and author of The Other Side of the Closet, to illuminate the emotional complexities, deep-seated grief, and powerful healing that follows this life-altering revelation.
This episode is a pivotal achievement in divorce education:
- Explores the silent trauma experienced by straight spouses and their children.
- Reframes the disclosure as a family-wide transformationānot just a personal event.
- Shares the six stages of recovery, offering validation and hope to anyone feeling shattered by the truth.
- Highlights the lived experience of both partnersāwith empathy, not blame.
This episode is more than educationāit's a compassionate call to reimagine how we support one another through the most intimate upheavals. Whether you're navigating a similar path or seeking to understand, this conversation is the beginning of a smarter, more humane approach to separation.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
From āWeā to āMeā: Designing Your Post-Divorce Sanctuary
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Designing a New Life: Creating Home After Divorce
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Guest Deirdre Dyent
Episode Theme: From āWeā to āMeāāTransforming Space, Healing Hearts
In this milestone episode of The Smart Divorceāa forerunner to the impactful Soft Landing Podcastāwe venture beyond legalities and into the intimate spaces of post-divorce transformation. Deborah Moskovich, renowned divorce consultant and author, welcomes interior designer and emotional transition expert Deirdre Dyent, in a conversation that reshapes how we think about home after separation. What makes this episode an āachievementā in divorce education? Itās the first to address home design as emotional recovery. This isnāt just about where you liveāitās how you heal.
- Why your space matters: How your environment reflects your emotional state post-divorce
- Designing with children in mind: Creating continuity and safety across two homes
- From chaos to comfort: Practical strategies for turning dismal beginnings into fresh starts
- Emotional architecture: Avoiding ārevenge decoratingā and embracing authenticity
This inspiring and practical conversation offers hope and dignity for anyone navigating the emotional upheaval of moving on. A brighter, more humane approach to separation starts here.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
From Heartbreak to Healing: Reimagining Divorce with Ritual
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Honoring the End, Embracing a New Beginning: Reimagining Divorce Through Ritual and Reflection
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck
Special Guest: Rabbi Ann Brenner
Episode Theme: Mourning Divorce and Creating Meaningful New Rituals
This milestone episode of The Smart Divorce sets a powerful precedent in the evolution of divorce educationāmarking a turning point toward a more compassionate, spiritually attuned approach to separation and loss. In what can only be called an āachievement episode,ā Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck welcome the deeply insightful Rabbi Ann Brenner, author of Mourning & Mitzvah: A Guided Journal for Walking the Mourner's Path Through Grief to Healing, to explore how ancient rituals and psychological wisdom can help mourn the end of a marriage.
Key Storylines
- Reframing divorce as an ambiguous lossāone that deserves mourning, witness, and ritual just like a death.
- Introducing healing rituals: cutting a marriage certificate, cleansing with sage, or assembling a personal ācourt of witnesses.ā
- Creating new traditions for holidays and special occasions post-divorce that foster identity, healing, and joy.
Why This Episode Matters
This episode doesnāt just educateāit liberates. It speaks directly to the soul of anyone who has felt unseen in the aftermath of divorce. As a forerunner to The Soft Landing Podcast, it lays the emotional and intellectual groundwork for a more humane, spiritually grounded conversation around life after marriage.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
The Divorce Mistakes We All MakeāAnd How to Avoid Them
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Mistakes We Make During Divorce: A Transformational Conversation
With Hosts Steve Peck and Deborah Moskovich
Introducing a Landmark Episode in Divorce Education
In this milestone conversation from Divorce Source Radio, hosts Steve Peck and Deborah Moskovichāthe visionary behind The Smart Divorceādive into the often-unspoken realities of separation and the most common, yet avoidable, missteps people make along the way. This episode marks a pivotal chapter in the journey toward a more compassionate, informed approach to divorce. It stands as a powerful forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcast, setting the tone for future dialogues centered on resilience, clarity, and healing.
Key Storylines and Unique Angles
- The underestimated emotional and physical toll of divorceāand how to protect your well-being.
- The first mistake most people make: not doing the internal work to assess if the marriage is truly over.
- The financial blind spots that can derail your future and how to prepare before legal proceedings.
- Why a peaceful process (mediation, collaboration) leads to better outcomes for both parents and children.
- The silent suffering of childrenāfrom toddlers to adultsāand how to truly put their needs first.
Why This Episode Matters
This is more than a podcastāit's a wake-up call and a lifeline. With empathy, honesty, and personal reflection, Steve and Deborah invite listeners to slow down, get informed, and redefine divorce as an opportunity for personal growth rather than a legal catastrophe.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
The Turning Point: Smarter, Kinder Divorce Begins Here
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Rethinking Divorce: A Smarter, More Humane Path Forward
Hosted by Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck | Featuring Justice Rebecca Love Kourlis
A Milestone Episode in Divorce Education
Welcome to a landmark moment in divorce educationāa powerful episode of The Smart Divorce that lays the groundwork for what would become the Soft Landing Podcast. In this visionary conversation, hosts Deborah Moskovitch and Steve Peck are joined by Justice Rebecca Love Kourlis, former Colorado Supreme Court Justice and Executive Director of the Institute for the Advancement of the American Legal System (IAALS). This episode isn't just a discussionāit's a call to action.
Key Themes
- Access to Justice: Redefining what it means for families navigating separation and divorce, especially those without legal representation.
- Avoiding Court: Exploring why the traditional adversarial system often does more harm than goodāand what alternatives are emerging.
- The Honoring Families Initiative: IAALS' groundbreaking, out-of-court model offers education, counseling, and mediation, helping families resolve disputes without stepping into a courtroom.
- Empowering Self-Represented Litigants: Tools, strategies, and reforms designed to support those navigating divorce without attorneys.
Why This Episode Matters
This is more than a podcastāit's a blueprint for transforming how we support families during one of lifeās most challenging transitions. A precursor to the Soft Landing Podcast, this episode is a foundational resource for those seeking a more informed, compassionate, and constructive way forward.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
It's Never Too Late to Have a Good Childhood
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
It's Never Too Late to Have a Good Childhood: A Milestone in Divorce Healing
Featuring: Deborah Moskovich and Ron Sapanchek, with host Steve Peck
A Landmark Episode in Divorce Education
This special episode of The Smart Divorce is more than just a conversationāit's a breakthrough in how we understand the long-reaching effects of divorce and the enduring possibility of healing. Ron Sapanchek, a celebrated family lawyer and host of his own show, courageously shares a deeply personal, never-before-told story of childhood abandonment, emotional reconciliation, and parental reunification after nearly four decades apart. His journey from a "wounded healer" to a pioneer of humane divorce practices underscores the belief that divorce is not just an ending, but a profound opportunity for transformation.
Legacy and Impact
Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck guide this conversation with warmth and empathy, positioning this episode as:
- A forerunner to the Soft Landing Podcast, setting the emotional and philosophical tone for whatās to come
- An achievement in divorce educationāoffering fresh, empathetic frameworks like mission statements and storytelling for families in crisis
- A story of generational healing that will inspire both professionals and those navigating separation
Why This Episode Matters
Ronās story is not just heartwarmingāitās transformative. His experiences challenge the notion of ābroken families,ā emphasizing communication, compassion, and second chances.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Itās All About the Kids: A Smarter, More Humane Approach to Parenting After Divorce
Featuring Hosts Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck with Guest Dr. Philip Stahl
A Groundbreaking Episode in Divorce Education
In this milestone conversation, Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck sit down with Dr. Philip Stahl, a leading psychologist, author, and educator specializing in high-conflict divorce and child custody. As a powerful predecessor to the Soft Landing Podcast, this episode sets the tone for a new eraāone grounded in empathy, accountability, and child-centered solutions.
Why This Episode Matters
This is not just another podcastāit's an achievement episode in the realm of divorce education, reframing co-parenting and post-separation life as opportunities for growth and resilience.
- Dr. Stahl shares deeply human stories and expert guidance on creating customized parenting plans that prioritize childrenās well-being over rigid formulas.
- The discussion explores co-parenting vs. parallel parenting, highlighting real-world tools for managing conflict and fostering trust.
- Listeners are reminded that āparenting isnāt a percentageāāit's about presence, quality, and modeling responsibility.
A Message of Hope
Whether you're navigating a high-conflict separation or quietly adjusting to single parenting, this episode offers a beacon of compassion and clarity. As Dr. Stahl so poignantly puts it, āIt's not about the parents. Itās about the kids.ā
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca

Monday Jul 14, 2025
The Smart Divorce Begins: Finding Strength at the Start of Separation
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Introducing the Smart Divorce: A Pioneering Step Toward Empowered, Compassionate Separation
Hosted by Deborah Moskovich and Steve Peck | Featuring Dr. Robert Simon
A Milestone in Divorce Education and Support
In this achievement episode of The Smart Divorceāa groundbreaking predecessor to the acclaimed Soft Landing Podcastāwe invite listeners to take the first courageous step toward navigating divorce with clarity, integrity, and heart. This inaugural conversation is more than just a podcastāit's a call to revolutionize how we experience and approach the end of a marriage. Through candid reflections and expert insights, host Deborah Moskovich shares her personal journey from guilt-ridden separation to empowered educator. Alongside co-host Steve Peck and clinical psychologist Dr. Robert Simon, this episode sheds light on what really happens in the emotionally charged early stages of divorce.
- Learn why slowing down the process can lead to better outcomes for families.
- Discover how therapy and communication shape a smarter, more humane divorce.
- Understand why ābeing smartā about divorce means preparing emotionally as well as legally.
Why This Episode Matters
This is where it all began. With empathy, truth, and expert insight, this episode paved the way for a more thoughtful and emotionally intelligent conversation around separation. Whether you're contemplating divorce or supporting someone through it, this podcast is your first step toward a softer landing.
š¬ Thanks for Listening
Ken Maynard
Thank you for joining us on the Soft Landing Divorce Podcast, where we believe that separation can be a starting pointānot just an end. With the right support, you can navigate this transition with dignity, clarity, and a vision for your future. Iām Ken Maynard, Accredited Family Mediator and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), and founder of Divorce the Smartway. I help separating couples find resolution through constructive dialogue, practical financial planning, and family-first solutions.- š Phone: (647) 360-3200
- š Website: divorcethesmartway.ca
- š§ Email: kmaynard@dtsw.ca
Sarah Bates
I believe every ending can be the beginning of a healthier, more empowered life. Iām Sarah Batesādivorce consultant, educator, and advocate for compassionate separation. If you're navigating separation, co-parenting, or just need guidance on building the right team, Iām here to help.- š Phone: (647) 493-1800
- š Website: www.thesmartdivorce.com
- š§ Email: sarah@thesmartdivorce.com
Connect with US: to.softlandingpodcast.ca